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and the al-qaida threat that exists in many nations in that part of the world and the fact that the pentagon is now taking a closer look at it, possibly even sending a brigade there to get their troops up to snuff, although that could be a real challenge. >> yeah, well these are called regionally aligned brigades. this is the second brigade of the first infantry division. it's the first in a step of a series of initiatives the army is taking to avoid what happened to us in the early days of iraq where we didn't have the cultural awareness and the cultural knowledges that we needed going into a counterinsurgency environment. this bra cade is focused on africa, which as you know, jaime, is probably the next region to be influenced by al-qaida in places like the sudan, nigeria, places like that. remember terrorists always fill a political void and the greatest political void today, at least the growing void in the world sadly is in northern and central africa, jaime. jaime: quickly, what is the second brigade offer that makes them the right folks for this job? >> that is a great question. a lot
of faith with our soldiers makes him not the right man to leave the pentagon. he went on in 2007 not only to oppose the surge and delay war funding and vote for a mandatory withdrawal from iraq at the same time. >> i want to quote directly from senator heigle at that time. there will be no defeat and no victory for the united states in iraq. and the time for more troops in iraq has passed. and it went on to say that -- i will just read this here, my comments 14 years ago were in -- actually this is in regard to a different issue. let's take that off and we will get to that in a moment. you were the platoon leader before it even happened. >> i was leading a 41-man with the 101st airborne in baghdad in 2006. those men fought bravely. they helped stabilize our sector of the city 1k3 defeat al-qaeda and other foreign terrorists and protect other civilians. they are proud of their accomplishments and no one told them at the time we would not achieve victory and we needed to withdraw from the country. today's fighting troops we have 68,000 troops in afghanistan. they deserve secretary of defens
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